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Finig ‎1. I doubt you hate U2 as much as I do. 2. And yet, there's a simple honesty to the refrain 'I still haven't found what I'm looking for' that gets me every time. 3. Fuck U2.
UF, SE, YHE and 5 others like this.
- Max Barker once described them as "Epically and lavishly forgettable". I dont think ive ever liked a succinct statement about a band as much as that.
- I can't believe we never bonded over our hatred for U2. If I had one bullet.....
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yrch66gdjjk
- I WANT TO FIND WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. Oh, whoops, sorry was that too honest to share with Facebook?
- My boyfriend thinks "But I still haven't found what I'm looking for" would make a lovely first dance at a wedding
- A friend of mine used to work as a wedding DJ. He said you would be surprised how often couples choose that song as their first dance. Do people not listen to lyrics at all?
- Which leads into the whole thing about the theme song to Better Homes and Gardens having a verse about domestic violence...
- I once had a boyfriend say 'oh, this song is for you. I always think of you when it plays.' when it came on. I looked stonily at him and he couldn't understand why. Then it got to the chorus and he tripped over himself to say actually it wasn't that song. we don't go out any more. So the song was right. U2 CAN TELL THE FUTURE.
- I have kissed honey lips. I have talked with the voice of angels. I believe in kingdom come, when all the colours will bleed into one. And yes I'm still running. But I still haven't found what I'm looking for.
- I used to pride myself on the fact that I knew no one stupid enough to have gone to see U2 on this tour. Then I met someone, he'd been to see them. I didn't much like him before but I pity the hell out of him now.
- When I was in Dublin there was a U2 festival in town and the whole town was going berserko for U2 fever and I just DID NOT understand what the fuss was about - there were U2 groupies travelling all around the tour circuit to see each and every show they did.
- seriously, fuck those guys. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVYj36pd034
- I hate you all. I have had U2 in my head all morning because of you.
- That may have happened with or without us.
- I like 'em fine.
- they're much better trend followers than they are actual songwriters. They should make a post-hardcore thrash metal album. I enjoy Boy and Zooropa.
- I have looked on the bookshelves

I have looked out the back

I have looked under the counter

under the counter

but I still can't find that fucking book I'm looking for

...Have you seen "To Sir With Love"? if so please let me know



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- Hey, fuck you too, buddy.
- Had i had the money, I would have gone to see U2 on their last tour, because a) im curious as to see what one of their shows would be like, and 2) Jigga was supporting, and allegedly he is a phenomenal live performer...
- I have felt the feeling fingertips that burn like fire. This burning desire. I have spoken with the tongue of angels. I have held the hand of the devil. It was warm in the night. I was cold as a stone. But I still haven't found what I'm looking for.
- I guarantee I do :P - I really want to start a death to bono club...fuckwit should stop clicking his fingers and give some of his millions to feed the world rather than try guilt trip my poor, guilt free arse.. *grumble*
- The god I believe in, isn't short of cash...Mister...
- As a wedding song it's up there with "Love the one you're with" and "What's love got to do with it?"

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Finig Bono receives a disproportionate amount of criticism, partly because he is the public face or 'frontman' and partly because he is the biggest asshole in the band.
BJ, JE, GR and 2 others like this.

- That's why he needs the shades.

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Finig ‎'English music critics were, like English people, slow to embrace something or someone new.' And at that point I have to put down Unforgettable Fire: The Story of U2, take a deep breath, and leave the house to do some real work.
- I just read a comment on a friend's facebook about a girl giving him 25cents change in a burger shop and getting distracted, midway through change-giving, and as a result they pretty much held hands for about 2 seconds. Maybe that makes you feel better?
- The torture continues.

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Finig ‎'U2 worked from the gut - no-one more than Edge, whose genius flowed from the depths of his dark Welsh soul.'
HN likes this.
- *HURL*
- Some metaphors should not be mixed. His soul is his guts, his inspiration came from the depths thereof, therefore he produced the music from his Welsh bowels.
- dark welsh bowels.


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Finig ‎'At the centre of this day stood Bono, the shy, passionate man-child. All in different ways were dependent on him, to give voice to their secret hopes, fears and dreams. In him, so open, so exposed, sometimes strong, sometimes weak, sometimes foolish, often intuitively wise, as physically clumsy as a late-night lush, as agile and poised as Nureyev; in this great soul singer, everyone could see themselves.'
- What's with u & bono of late hey?
- Who wrote that?? And did they get paid for it? And if so, who paid them, and what's their address?
- I assume you want to pay them your respects, one editor to another?
- clumsy as a lush AT THE SAME TIME as he is poised as a dancer? what does that MEEEEEEEEEAN?

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Finig Putting aside prejudices towards the music and personalities of its members, what do you think of U2 as a band name? (Unforgettable Fire: The Story of U2 describes it as 'a brilliant, intuitive stroke, product identification par excellence.')
- stason.org states: [M] The reason for the band picking the name U2 is not really known. For

one thing, the U2 is a spy plane that

was in service during the late '50s and '60s. There was a U2 that was

involved in a crash over the old Soviet

Unio...n on 4 May 1960 (four days before Bono was born). The name U2 is

also a pun, as in you too or you two.

The name seemed to be sufficiently vague to work as the name of the band

we now know and love.


- Text speak before text speak was invented. Neanderthals watching springer.
- Pants
- Don't know anything about the name...but I must confess to a fair amount of nostalgia for U2, having spent quite a few of my angst filled teenager years listening to them!
- I don't think band names matter that much. I think it's aesthetically good which is as important as anything.

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Finig Wolfmother was easy, you could rely on them to humiliate themselves in every way possible all the time. U2 is tricky; there's always the possibility they'll do something right.
- no matter how small that possibility is, it makes you wonder.


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Finig Band borrows $50,000 to film live video. Band films live video. Band has to pay $50,000 in unexpected royalties after singer performs surprise unauthorised version of 'Send In The Clowns'. Manager takes Bono into his office for private chat.
GR, PO and GD like this.
- Seriously, are you stalking Bono, or at least planning to?
- Lol, but what's with the U2 obsession this wk? For some1 who "hates" them, u sure are spending A LOT of time thinking & writing about them. Are you overcompensating for a secret love? Lol :)
- I don't hate them, I'm obsessed with them.
- Oh, My mistake. :)

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- For you, from my Irish newspaper today:

'Bono described the album as 'futuristic'. U2 going sci-fi or something. A song is never done until the day before it comes out almost, so you never know.' quote from RedOne, music producer working with U2 on their next album and who recently worked with Lady Gaga. You realise you are irrevocably linked to U2 in my mind now?


Finig The song is never done until the day before it comes out almost, because Bono refuses to write lyrics until he is in the studio, either because he is a genius who responds to stress and adrenaline with poetry, or because he is a lazy fuckwit who gets his own way far too often.

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Finig One of my favourite U2 stories is how Larry (the drummer) accidentally broke a cymbal stand on stage, and Bono turned to attack him. Larry fled off stage mid-song in fear, and Bono would have gone after him except Edge grabbed him by the hair and threw him to the ground. Bono was not allowed to sleep in the same hotel room as the others that night.
- What is going on with this U2 obsession? Victoria must be this U2-controlled state with all this "it's a beautiful day" bs propaganda, kind of like a political movement but way lame. Saw two books about them for sale in front of Berkeleouws in Leichhardt. Thought of getting them for you but the thought of even touching them made me nauseous
- If one of them was 'Unforgettable Fire: The Story of U2' then you owe it to yourself to grab a copy.
- I will need anti-contamination gloves and a burning fire so I can throw it in it directly.

- Books about U2 don't burn. I know this.


- Do they only get better with age?


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Finig So I decided to write down all the U2 songs I know in order of most favourite to least. Turns out I know five: I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For, Sunday Bloody Sunday, Numb, (and then fighting it out for shitest) Beautiful Day and With Or Without You.
- Acrobat!
- what?
- All I want is you.
- what?
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHa1ThS9avA
- He's is referring to track 11 from Achtung Baby, whilst she's is referring to the final track from Rattle and Hum.
- Evidently, All I Want Is You is also the final track from The Best Of 1980 - 1990, which contains October as a hidden track.
- I tried to watch the video but my tiny heart broked when I read the note by the uploader. Is that passive aggressive or deeply, deeply depressing?
- Did you know that The Edge's live performance of Numb at 1993 MTV Video Awards incorporated visuals created by the counterculture group Emergency Broadcast Network, and that these visuals were subsequently incorporated into live performances of the song on the Zoo TV tour? http://youtu.be/ZcujW28HqFE
- Waves of regret / Waves of joy / I reached out for the one / I'd tried to destroy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7ElEHJpvNs
- I'd go with all of the above.
- the acrobat vid was sad, but wierdly fitting for the song.
- a bigger point is that u2 were better than their radio play would have you believe
- Well let's take it to the streets, by-atch.
- Well the problem is they've failed to die tragically at a young age and have become a fucking embarassment. Such is the tragedy of talent.
- I'm sure many feel the same way about me and it's only a couple of years for you!
- And yet, look at INXS.
- I doubt that Bono has read this post. And we are glad.
- cock! i only knew 4, now i know 5.
- I cannot believe I am partaking in this, but Lemon, She Moves in Mysterious Ways (did someone already say that?) Fuck, dude, you're fucking with everyone
- at this point
- It's like a U2 mindgame and you have everyone playing (I assume this was your original intention)... oh yes, and then there's that shocker where they duet with Leonard Cohen at the end of Tower of Song. Truly monstrous.
- Angel of Harlem's a good one.
- I like the song One. there, I said it.
- Stay (Faraway, So Close), Boy/Girl, I Will Follow, Av Cat Dubh, The Wanderer (ft. Johnny Cash). That pretty much sums it up for me.


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Finig John Griffiths makes the claim that 'U2 were better than their radio play would have you believe.' Agree / disagree?
GJ likes this.
- Radio play or no, their music is overwhelmingly dwarfed by...just...just how awful they are.
- strict emphasis on *WERE*, no judgment on the current sad state of affairs.
- I mean the dude freakin brought peace to northern ireland with one onstage outburst, how is a human ego meant to recover from that kind of affirmation?
- I had a whole bunch of text written about this, but all I'll say is it's a slippery slope.
- And let me tell you somethin'. I've had enough of Irish Americans who haven't been back to their country in twenty or thirty years come up to me and talk about the resistance, the revolution back home...and the glory of the revolution...and... the glory of dying for the revolution. Fuck the revolution! They don't talk about the glory of killing for the revolution. What's the glory in taking a man from his bed and gunning him down in front of his wife and his children? Where's the glory in that? Where's the glory in bombing a Remembrance Day parade of old age pensioners, their medals taken out and polished up for the day. Where's the glory in that? To leave them dying or crippled for life or dead under the rubble of the revolution, that the majority of the people in my country don't want. No more!
- That was Bono before he became embarassing.
- Probably best to say: in gaps between being embarrassing.
- Agree with John totally. In the early days they were played a cool clubs right alongside New Order.


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Finig Why do some people feel guilty for enjoying U2 songs? This seems to have been an issue from the start - are you someone who feels weird about digging on their tunes? If so: why?
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- I enjoy their tunes without embarrassment but encourage your hatred towards them as I find it amusing.
- Ditto
- I too enjoy the occasional song, unfortunately the presence of bono anywhere is unpleasant so sometimes it is best to avoid them
- What's with the U2 trivia/research Finnigan? Are you and Bono plotting world takeover via annoying-but-catchy popular music?


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- Mr Finig, I don't know you very well but I could friggin KILL you for polluting my FB page with so much U2 chat. I blame you entirely for the constant and irritating penetration of my brain that is 'I still haven't found what i'm looking for'.... warranting this: fucuferrymush


Finig They're a pop band: harden up.

INTERVIEW WITH FINIG
- Hi Finig.
- Hi Corduroy.
- Listen, without wanting to dismiss something you've clearly put a lot of thought into, what exactly is the point of this U2 thing? After this long, surely anything worth saying about U2 must have already been said.
- Well maybe, but that doesn't mean they're off-limits for further inquiry. I mean the point is not to try and dig up new information about U2, or like discover the secret secrets behind the band's work. This is about using U2 as a starting place for a wider discussion around music, ethics, God...
- So what's the hook for you here?
- I need to get this shit out of my head so I can do something useful with myself. At the moment I'm functioning more or less as a machine that hates U2.
- So this is an attempt to elevate your personal problems into the wider world.
- Yeah, roughly. I mean, the night before last I was lying in bed unable to sleep because I was so angry about the way Bono treated the U2 road crew during the War tour in 1983 - it preys on my thoughts constantly. So these guys are like cultural icons, fair enough, good for them. But is it possible that another band could have given people what U2 gave them, but more and better?
- What would that alternative U2 look like?
- I don't know exactly, but remember, these guys are mainstream successes. 80s mainstream successes. That's the demographic we're talking about - and what was it they were searching for in U2?
- Let's talk about method. You're really not creating anything yourself here, or what you're creating is pretty inconsequential. Is that fair to say?
- It's insulting. But yes, fair.
- So, what you've done, largely, is steal from Eamon Dunphy's UNFORGETTABLE FIRE: The Story of U2, and you've also appropriated a lot of people's contributions to Facebook discussions on the topic of U2. And by arranging these into a script format, with line breaks to signify spoken lines, you're calling that a script.
- Yeah. So consider this an arrangement, if you like. Or a mix, or a collage, or whatever you want. There's definitely some authorial input though, just in the selection of material if nothing else.
- But the same could be said if you gave me a mix CD of songs by your favourite bands. You didn't write any of those tunes - you put them in order. That's all you've done here.
- Okay, okay, acknowledged. But imagine the spectrum - at the one end is the mix CD, as you've described, mostly just repackaging existing material, with maybe a hand-drawn cover on it and a little accompanying note. Minimal creative input. At the other end of the spectrum is the ideal work of art, one created almost entirely from scratch, drawing on influences but without obviously copying them. On the line between these two extremes there is room for lots of shit to exist. I'm not equating this piece with the great works of art - nor am I equating it even with my own most successful scripts. I've written roughly 50% of the text and selected, edited and arranged the whole thing into an approximately pleasing shape. So it's somewhere on that spectrum - what's wrong with that?
- The problem is that by having your name on it - by David Finnigan - the way that it does - you are implicitly indicating that you've written the whole thing.
- No the problem is that it's 2011 and people are still trying to make these distinctions in a really black and white way. No-one's making any money off this project except Eamon Dunphy, who will get his share from the copy of UNFORGETTABLE FIRE: The Story of U2 which I would not have purchased if not for this. Everything we talk about is out in the world, it's all up for grabs. I've thrown in a bit of creative capital into the material - very soon I'm going to pass it out to all the other collaborators, and they'll all contribute their own thoughts and ideas. Creativity is messy.
- What would you say to Eamon Dunphy or the members of U2, or anyone else whose work you're drawing on here, if they listen to this?
- I say: This is for you, guys. This whole thing is an instructional message for you: we're here saying, lift your fucking game. I'm not even joking.
- Finig, when you try to give advice to grown men - grown, successful men - famous successful grown men - you give off a pretty smug vibe. Do you consider yourself pretty smart?
- We'll see how smart I am when the canine comes.


BONUS MATERIAL

Signature Moves
One of Bono's signature moves (after giving up his moronic audience invasions) is to pull up a girl from the audience every gig and give her a hug. He picks the prettiest girl in the crowd (what's the line from Live Aid? It's not good) and hugs her and he's married and it's weird and sexual but with barriers around it and sort of encapsulates some of the weird disturbing vibes I get from the dude.
The Christian view of this attitude is that it's acceptable to be close - to be affectionate with a member of the opposite sex, so long as you're not going to make love with them. For me, it reads like a demonstration that you could, if you wanted - you won't, but you could. All of Bono's women that he hugs up on stage read to me like a man proving to himself and to the world that he can get all the action he wants, any time. I'm clearly missing the 'spiritual connection to the audience' aspect, because that's the part that doesn't make any sense to me. Symbolically, what? If it's not sexual, why is it just girls? Hug a dude, Bono, or is that too weird for you? Cause right now this, this is pretty weird for me.

Christian lyrical imagery
The thing about using Christian imagery in your lyrics is, it's a western thing. We're a christian society, and if you don't study the bible or learn your religion, you're always gonna be behind the ball here, because christians wrote all our great works of literature and designed our culture and built our language. There's a few distinct markers to Christian imagery in pop music, which forgive me if I miss any major ones -

guilt


shame

thorn in my side

bleed for you

'I suffered, I died'

bear the cross

did it all for you

not worthy

burned like fire

to touch is to heal

to its credit, reggae and dub draws a really distinct set of images from the whole mess, as do the blues - what I'm describing is a particular brand of white male middle class angst, which you could argue that U2 helped construct. Well, good then.


At its best, that set of images gives you something like 'I still haven't found what I'm looking for' - Bono drops a shitload of christian images compiled from the bible, from sermons, but the variety and the surprise factor he gets from them is really seriously good.
At its worst, you get With Or Without You, which is a fat confused mess.


Bono Vs The Sound Crew And The Rest Of The Band
'Larry, Edge and Bono drank with the crew and a pretty girl from Ian Wilson's PR company. The girl fancied Larry strongly. This was Time Out London, feminism was the thing, especially among a certain type of middle-class girl who imagined emancipation had arrived. If you wanted to go to bed with a fellow you propositioned him. Why not? (Why not indeed?) The signals were sent but Larry wasn't up for it. He had a girlfriend, Ann, in Dublin, and he was going to bed. This was unbelievably coy and strange behaviour for a rock 'n' roll star. Deciding it was a new kind of Irish come-on, the girl headed upstairs after Laurence, who had sussed the possibility out and tipped the wink to Bono and Edge to get him out of this embarrassing situation. After a few minutes Bono went to investigate. He found Larry explaining to the girl that he really wasn't into this. Bono took her downstairs. 'Why didn't you mind your own business?' demanded Niall Shortall, the sound man, a veteran of the Dublin scene. He challenged Bono, displaying open contempt for what he characterised as 'all that Bible crap'. An ugly row ensued, and it became clear that a new sound setup would be needed.' p176
Later on, when Niall tells his version of this story, Paul threatens to sue him if he spreads tales about the band's religious beliefs. Suing is a theme with these guys right from the outset.
On tour in America in 1981: 'Six weeks before going into Windmill Studios to record what would become the October album, Bono had no lyrics, images, notes or musical ideas. He'd lost them all, plus money ($300), passport - the lot - when his briefcase was stolen between Portland and Seattle in March on the first leg of the tour.... Bono was unapproachable for a few days.' p216-7
The main thread I take from them artistically is that while the other three band members are becoming increasingly reliable and consistent in their ability to deliver the goods on demand, Bono is vanishing up his own ass under the impression that he is a starchild genius. He goes into each album with no lyrics written, and reading between the lines (and occasionally in the lines themselves) he is an obnoxious whiner who makes everyone else's job harder.
'Bono was a restless perfectionist, never satisfied that the mix was right, always pushing, driving for more, questioning every line, every note, every sound effect. He was chasing the sound in his head and never seemed content that he'd found it in the studio. He was hard on everyone, but hardest on himself. His creative process was painful and complex, the lyrics a final, never-quite-right compound of the emotions, images and sounds with which he began.' p260
During their 1981 American tour, U2's New Haven gig showcases a pretty special side of Bono. 'Bono was carrying the strain more than anyone. For months he had been uptight about everything, including the music being played behind him. He'd turn and glare at Larry, Edge or Adam is a drum pattern changed or a guitar deviated from the line. He was hyper the last time they played New Haven. Towards the end of the gig Larry's snare-stand broke. All Bono knew was that Larry had stopped playing. He forgot about audience and performance and turned, enraged, to find Larry grinning sheepishly. Bono charged, hurling his awkward bulk at the drummer, who took evasive action by jumping off backstage. Bono kicked the drum-kit over... Bono ran after Larry. As he got to the rim of the stage Edge reached out and grabbed him by the hair. The guitarist rarely lost his cool, but now the Welsh passion so slowly roused boiled over and raged at Bono. Edge wanted to kick the singer's head in.' p273
During the 1984 Australia and New Zealand tour, the relationship between band and crew broke down. 'Impatient and angry, Bono turned on the U2 crew to vent his perfectionist spleen.... Some dates in Europe had to be cancelled while the music was sorted out. Problem number one was the breakdown in communication between band and crew. Joe, Steve, Timmy and Tom had borne the brunt of U2 frustration, or more precisely, Bono's temper... The decision arried at would apply to all future tours; Adam would take over from Bono as crew-band liaison man.' (p302)
What does it say about your process that your crew refuse to work for you unless you're forbidden from speaking with them? Remember, a touring band is a unit. Musicians, sound engineer, roadies, and it's a really difficult balancing act to keep everyone onside.

Three Quarters Christian

The important thing to remember is that U2 is only 3/4 Christian. Bassist Adam Clayton never joined the Shalom group or, apparently, gave a shit about religion one way or another. On the first American tour in 1981, that became a little bit of an issue:


'Although the bus wasn't rigidly divided, for much of the day it seemed to be. Bono, Larry and Edge occupied the back lounge. There they read their Bibles and, occasionally, sang a gospel song. It was the atmosphere rather than the behaviour that was strange. Further down the bus the other tourists lived, conscious of the Christianity behind. In the beginning the boys at the back would come down and mingle, pretend things were normal - but they weren't. There was tension, unspoken rebuke, suppressed resentment. Adam was isolated most distressingly... Paul felt sorry and angry about Adam's isolation. When Bono, Larry and Edge had come to him to explain their convictions, Paul had observed that while he was sympathetic to their personal beliefs, he had his own. Now what had been personal was becoming an intrusion into the working life of U2. Like Adam, Paul was committed to the U2 concept. Like Adam, he knew that that meant commitment to fair dealing, hard work, honest music, no exploitation, no self-indulgence. The idea that these values, relating to professional integrity but linked inevitably to personal behaviour, were exclusive to Christianity, a notion implicit in much of the activity on the back of the bus, was ludicrous, and personally offensive to Adam and to Paul.' p218-9


U2 Helped Rock N Roll Grow Up
'U2 seemed to want to change and expand the idiom, were committed to give to rock music rather than take, to change the thing they loved rather than exploit it... In the age of nihilism and contrived cool when, if it looked anywhere at all, rock 'n' roll was looking backwards, one young band had the guts and imagination to explore and develop something that had become jaded.' (p291)
'In 1984 even the heroes didn't believe in themselves. Nihilism was the vibe of the times. Until U2. This band was doing more than selling albums and packing arenas. The four boys from Dublin were making a revolution, not outside in society, but here, within the rock 'n' roll culture itself. Because rock wanted to be taken seriously, wanted to grow up, U2 mattered more now than bands that had sold more records and achieved wider public acclaim. Pride helped rock 'n' roll grow up, won it respect and self-respect.' (p297)

Bono's Spectacular Journeys
During the 1983 War tour, U2 add a couple of new elements to their set to go along with Bono's cajoling the crowd. He waves a white flag on stage. I guess that symbolises... well frankly, it symbolises people who are trying too hard to be symbolic. Another key element is Bono's 'nightly plunge into the audience'.
'Emotionally, his spectacular journeys through theatres were trips into the unknown... No other rock 'n' roll performer had ever ventured out the way Bono did... Bono's adventures along balconies, into stalls, up scaffolding, along routes that no rock star had dared to travel before, were spectacular, a guarantee that U2 would be remembered, that the show, this show, on this night, in this arena, every night, would be special.' p276
The issue with these excursions is that as amazing as they may have been, they were also extremely dangerous, and it wasn't necessarily Bono who was running the risk. In 1983 they didn't really have radio mics, and so one of the sound crew would have to follow Bono with the mic lead. Bono's routes would be unpredictable, his behaviour extremely erratic, and it was up to the sound guy to keep the situation sweet if shit got out of control. This, by the way, while Bono is waving a fuck-off big white flag.
Anyway, during a festival in San Bernardino, there is a canopy above the audience. Bono is instructed not to climb it. He climbs it anyway. It starts to tear. Bono crawls back to safety. Then this fantastic story:
'The night of 17 June at the Los Angeles Sports Arena placed the matter [of Bono's audience invasions] on the agenda again. On Electric Co, Bono was off up the stairs behind the stage, around the belcony, white flag in one hand, mike in the other, with Dennis crawling behind. Bono was almost opposite the stage when a fist-fight broke out beside him. Someone grabbed for the flag. He climbed on the rim of the balcony threatening to jump if the fight didn't stop. It didn't. He jumped. The audience twenty feet below caught Bono. Dennis followed, landing on bodies. Madness erupted. Others jumped as their hero had just done. Nobody caught them. Bodies piled up on top of the seat, Bono's struggling underneath. He'd gone too far. The flag was ripped, hands clutched at the singer who, aided now by Dennis, was desperately trying to escape. As his shirt was ripped, Bono lashed out blindly with his fists. Someone hit back. Security arrived, scattering fans frightened by the hysterical scene. Adam, Edge and Larry kept Electric Co going as Dennis and the security men hustled Bono towards the stage. The white flag, torn, its pole snapped into tiny pieces, lay in the aisle, a casualty of the crazy scene. Emotions ran high in the dressing room afterwards.' p283





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