|Skype conference Oct. 3rd
Working group: Guido Governatori, Tara Athan, Monica Palmirani
[21:21:02] mp: TC meeting in 10 minutes
[21:21:16] mp: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/legalruleml/event.php?event_id=33717
[21:21:35] mp: please record your attendance
[21:21:54] mp: * Approval of the previous two TC minutes: Sept. 5th and Sept. 19th
* Update version of the metamodel and material
* Deontic document from Guido
* Other business
[21:30:51] *** Conference call ***
[21:33:08] mp: http://docs.oasis-open.org/legalruleml/legalruleml-core-spec/v1.0/csd01/legalruleml-core-spec-v1.0-csd01.doc
[21:39:11 | Edited 21:40:00] mp: Guido: it is not relevant to model the relationship of equivalence between
[OBL]p equiv -[PER]-p
[21:39:48] mp: [FOR]p equiv [OBL]-p
[21:40:20] mp: in the new deontic logic there is a different definition of permission
[21:41:23 | Edited 21:41:37] mp: requirement: to specify the semantic relationship between obl and per, and for/obl
[21:42:16] mp: or an URI or an attribute for marking up a standard profile
[21:44:59] mp: ontology is not enough for expressing in those relationships between the modal operators
[21:46:02] mp: Tara: RuleML is able to model the equivalence.
[21:47:29] mp: Tara: you need an axiom schema and RuleML is not expressive yet.
[21:48:38] mp: Guido: two classes, declarative rules and normative rules.
[21:48:55] mp: Guido: normative rules includes obligations, etc.
[21:49:37] Guido Governatori: mode=xxxx
[21:51:24] Tara Athan: The syntax should enforce the @mode attribute for declarative value: no deontic operators allowed.
[21:54:28] Tara Athan: XSD1.0 not allowed to change the content model based on the value of an attribute, but XSD1.1 it is allowed.
[21:55:51] Tara Athan:
[21:56:03] Tara Athan:
[21:56:09] Tara Athan:
[21:58:44] mp: three classes: obbligation, permittion, prohibition
[22:00:35] Tara Athan: Concrete classes occur when the content model for subclasses are the same.
[22:05:00] mp: the time of the obligation is in internal time
[22:05:37 | Edited 22:05:47] mp: the time of the obligation is the duration of time when the obligation is valid for the addresser
[22:06:00] mp: persistent: interval
[22:06:19] mp: transient: instantTime
[22:08:19] mp: Tara: the granularity of time concept is not present now in the Reaction Rule
[22:08:48] Tara Athan: Reaction RuleML allows to refer to external ontologies of time
[22:09:50] Tara Athan: Guido: SBVR may have such an ontology
[22:11:34] mp: one more paragraph: permission, prohibition, violation, reparation, penalty
[22:16:04] mp: Tara: please produce some examples
[22:16:36] mp: US 504 includes obligations and penality
[22:17:52] mp: p_1_, ..., p_n_, [DEON_1_]p_n+1_, ..., [DEON_m_]p_n+m_ =>_DEON_ q
[22:19:15] Guido Governatori: =>_DEON_
[22:19:29] Guido Governatori: =>
[22:20:15] mp: Guido: any form of formula is allowed in the body
[22:20:33] Guido Governatori: behaviour
[22:20:57] Guido Governatori: sequence of non deontic formulas
[22:21:28] Guido Governatori: A @ B @ C
[22:22:11] Guido Governatori: means
[22:22:55] Guido Governatori: there is the obligation of A, but if A is violated, then there is the obligation of B, and if B is also violated, then there is the obligation of C and so on
[22:23:32] Tara Athan: ->
[22:23:45] Guido Governatori:
[22:24:00] Guido Governatori: .....
[22:24:24] Guido Governatori: ....
[22:25:10] Guido Governatori: => A
[22:25:16] Guido Governatori: x => ~ A
[22:25:22] Guido Governatori: y => A
[22:25:52] Guido Governatori: => A
[22:27:40] Guido Governatori: it A then B else C
[22:27:46] Guido Governatori: if A then B
[22:27:51] Guido Governatori: if ~A then C
[22:28:09] Guido Governatori: If A thenOBL B
[22:28:16] Guido Governatori: if ~B then OBL C
[22:28:29] Guido Governatori: A => B
[22:28:33] Guido Governatori: ~B => C
[22:29:48] Guido Governatori: A => OBL B
[22:29:57] Guido Governatori: ~B => OBL C
[22:30:03] Guido Governatori: A => B @ C
[22:31:16] Tara Athan: OBL B and ~B => C
[22:35:24] Guido Governatori:
[22:37:06 | Edited 22:37:14] mp: Tara: taxonomy and examples
[22:38:07] Guido Governatori:
[22:38:19] Guido Governatori: Obligation
[22:38:21] Guido Governatori: Permission
[22:38:24] Guido Governatori: Prohibition
[22:39:59] Tara Athan: Declarative / Normative (Obligation/Permission/Prohibition/Behavior)
[22:42:45] Guido Governatori: http://espace.uq.edu.au/eserv.php?pid=UQ:9617&dsID=coala.pdf
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[22:45:22] Guido Governatori: violation, complied_with
[22:46:23] mp: 10th Oct.
[22:48:08 | Edited 22:48:28] mp: Tara: motion: approve the examples in the next TC
[22:48:17] Guido Governatori: +1
[22:48:33] Guido Governatori: proposed proposed motion
[22:49:01] mp: bye