Stephen: It’s, I have one in here that (didn’t answer at this point)...one with Mabel and Fatty together. The marquis. -- I have the publisher already. As a matter of fact, the publisher himself is very interested in that. Minta: I’m going to get up at the table. Who is your publisher? Stephen: Farrar, Straus and Giroux. They’re in New York...that’s Sydney [sic] Sutherland, he did the biography of Mabel. I have, but didn’t bring it, a picture, “The Marquis” with Mabel and Fatty. I wish I had brought it....So I’ll have a copy made and send it out to you....because the publishing company does the copies for me. Minta: We had a baseball -- out here, and she was the head of the baseball business (team?) ...This was one of her favorite pictures of herself...Minnie. I have a picture of Roscoe and Minnie Hee Haw, it’s one of the funniest ones I’ve ever seen; she falls in love with Roscoe, and SHE LOVED MABEL. And she used to make Mabel little slippers to wear. She loved Mabel, then she loved Roscoe, and I came third. But she ADORED Mabel. She was a Cherokee Indian and her name was Minnie Devereauex (sic) She was a very well-educated Indian woman. I could tell all kinds of funny things about her, too...(to a pic of Sennett) You’re a sweetheart, even if you DID chew tobacco. ...Who is the man? Stephen: His name is Arden. He was a writer. (pause)... Don: (pic inside a stage) was that at Goldwyn? Or -- Minta: This was never us. Don: Sennett never had a stage. No. Minta: We never had stages! And stuff like that there. (pause) I was there four years. EVERY DAY, work. Don: Came off the trolley. Minta: Pigeon-toed. That race track thing in “Mickey” is good, isn’t it! I have a copy of that. I’ll have it sent down and we’ll have it run. ... Stephen: they sure ought to do that. Why don’t they bring them down? Don: Bill Thrush is ill, that’s the problem. Minta: We only use them when I’m doing a picture, a show, see I’ve done so many shows, that I went up this last time to do four shows and he was ill and I only did TWO shows. I showed pictures, and told all about them. Don: She can do that, down here. Minta: I can do it anyplace Don: Anyplace. Don: If we had the films in our hands. Minta: You see, I was sent for, when I was doing “Molly Brown,” by the British Film Institute of Silent Films sent for me, because every so often they want somebody who is still living, of the films they have. I had two more weeks under contract with Debbie, and she said, “Oh, Minta, for the love of beans, go on and go, because” “But you had three beautiful gowns made for me for the Denver set.” “I know, but any gal who can go thru what YOU have, the trial, you’ve never cry-babied about anything, lose a million dollars and never say a word about it. I’m for YOU a thousand percent. Go on and go.” So I went on over and in exactly the ending of 1963 and we stayed over into 1964, and I was supposed to do all of the monetary basis, but Mr. Kennedy had been assassinated, and all of our American places were closed down, you know. But I was in Paris, stayed there for a week, and I was 3 weeks in London, and around London. Yep. Quite an experience.-- I loved that scene where she’s up in the tree (Mabel in “Mickey”) wasn’t she sweet in that thing? (pause) Stephen: This man was the mayor of Chicago. Minta: You know, we went back in 1915, Sennett wanted us to go back, Mabel and Roscoe and our cameraman and that sort of thing, because Mabel wanted to see her people. And Roscoe had gotten this release, so he gave that to us as a gift, you might say, a compliment, and we’d get out at these railroad stops, and we were so unconscious of the fact how POPULAR we were, people would be jamming the railroads. -- Now what is this, a birthday? Don and Stephen: That’s a scene in one of her movies. Minta: I remember when she left us -- WHEW! ... Stephen: This is the fellow who did the story with her, Sydney Sutherland? With Liberty magazine? That was towards the end. Minta: Can I ask you a question? I had a man who was going to do a story and he called me one night at ten-thirty at night, and he said, “I want to find out, this man Sutherland, says, that Mabel was a dope fiend. I said, “I haven’t heard anything like that before in my life.” He didn’t print it anyway, in his story, so maybe he said it personally, but never said it publicly. That I know of, anyway. ... Stephen: It was a nice story, really; I’ll have to get a xerox of that, too, and send it to you. Minta: Now you’re going too. Where all do you have to go from here, now? Stephen: I’m going out to dinner, I’m supposed to stop at Julia’s, ... Stephen: Saturday. Minta: That’s pretty good. Stephen: Maybe I’ll give you a call before I go, just to say goodbye, is that all right? |
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