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Guest_6500 : guest 1883's comments also suggest that the old team is doing something behind the scenes to get a bad name for the new team!

Guest_4244 : would any comrade please enlighten on the tecnicality aspect of the PA(T) recruitment , so that " doodh ka doodh aur paani ka paani ho jaye"

Guest_5664 : Friends i think we shall be left with no choice but to wind up shout box if this vulgar and bad language is used to criticize other cadres and induviduals. You all are free to criticize the central unit and its members but not any other induviduals as it will lead to more infighting. The shout box is only meant for a free and frank exchange of views and not to denigrate others. I would like to apologise to all those cadres and induviduals who are hurt by the language of some guests. The back ground on these issues of post 1984 recruitments shall be presented in the upcoming broadvision in a factual manner. SANJAY KUMAR,PRESIDENT,PSA

Guest_3753 : let us give strike notice on the issu of inclusion of PAs recruited after 1985
Ashok Panigrahi : Dear Sanjay, Instead of talking to you directly I am writing this as others should know my view, which all may not care. Donot close doen the SHOUT BOX. The frustration of our friends, due to stagnation as DPCs are pending for years due to litigation and inaction at the administartive level, is to be ventilated and Shout Box prides the opportunity for the same. No criticism is vulgar in democracy as the language and temperament differ from person to person depending on his/her awareness and personality. We are to accept the criticism in a democracy. We speak the language we deserve. You were a major part of the last team. So please clarify the facts as you are our leader now. And I hope all will believe you. At the same time I want to clarify that I am hurt by words used for me by my unknown friend as they have not mentioned their names. But I must thank them for their words which they feel I deserve, as I can not force anybody to use the words as per my choice. So donot have any complain. I wish all my friends a brighter future. Best of luck. Ashok

Guest_4908 : As guest 6500 suggested it is now very clear that the old team is behind the scenes and now the ex-president tears proves where he belongs to and what he has done to the new team. who called him in ?

Guest_5023 : Dear Ashok your language and expression shows that you are a decent person. Then how did you do that indecent act of including PA Ts into PSA. Everyone is expecting an answer, I am sure.

Guest_1729 : Guest 5023 you are too soft. A fellow who was President earlier says all the vulgarity words decent. Actually he wants to create problems for the new team. He justifies the language. How come he was leader all these days. just for his personal selfishness. Let him not come to this PSA forum again if he has any sense in his brain.

Guest_5649 : the problem guest 1729 is that he was elected by us or at least the majority of us, unfortunately. He was not transparent when he was in office. he seems to be so now! Then that seems to be the case with the new team also. This website started by them, not to provide a shout box for us to shout. They should be the first to post the latest developments and the steps they are taking, etc here and guide us. But it is only us who sniff something, shout here, and then comes the response that too about the words used. Shouldn't they had posted the latest decision by the directorate on Tuesday itself. Then what is this site for? We came to know about this only on Wednesday, that too from one of us, fellow sniffers. Is this lethargy because it concerns trexs? Is this because the president was part of the old team which took the decision to include PA Ts into PSA? Is this because they are also there for their own selfish reasons? Is this because they don't know how to use this media? Hello new team, be transparent, at least from now. Be proactive not reactive. Remember your action or inaction affects hundreds of your own colleagues.

Guest_9696 : Its death knell for all legitimately recruited trexes with due apologies to PAs. Horses cannot be clubbed with mules.

Guest_9696 : WAKE UP PSA, BE A MAN ATLEAST NOW. WE ARE ALL WITH THE PSA, AT THE DROP OF A HAT WE WILL ALL BARGE DELHI. HIGH TIME SLOGANS ARE RE-WRITTEN AS 'CHALO DELHI'. WHOEVER HAD THE 'AUDACITY' TO POST THE TIP OF THE DAY - HATS OFF IN THIS HOUR OF CRISIS, SOUNDS LIKE MANAGEMENT GUY ON THE PSA BOARD, AMEN!

Guest_9696 : its war like situation, lets all standup and face the real enemy in face (management), now r never. PSA dont allow the situation slip away like the plight of many farmers of this land, remember 'whither'bha, AP, karnataka. when our predecessors have climbed the ladder within a decade of their service , v the present lot despite putting up more than two 'decay'des of service are sulking in the same position. whats stopping everyone connected with our service to act? come'on PSA we have nothin to lose from here, lets all pull up our socks and start legitimate agitation.

Guest_2377 : Guest 5649 is right. Web is a strong tool. It can be used to guide us in a regulated path and speak in one voice with all the facts known to all. But it seems to be turning into a free for all fight and war of words creating animosity. the new team should be the one starting the discussion or giving out facts as and when they occur and participate in the discussions to dispel doubts. hey, are you listening?

Guest_1049 : Hi 9696 from your tone I felt your slogan is going to be 'jhalao delhi' than chalo delhi. The problem with us is we are satisfied even with pexi/c not forgetting pex adhoc and trex with independent charge. Let's start asking for our lawful rights. But going to court is a waste of time and money affair. We know who are in the way and who support them. So let us fix them, not with suitcase but...remember the slogan!

Guest_7903 : Friends your violent words remind me of a cornered cat. Dte-better be careful.

Guest_1913 : GET UP STAND UP. STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS, TREXES.

Guest_8130 : dear central unit members. i would like to know the fate of acp case which was supposed to come up for hearing on 8th july. is it not time for u to put the details on the net? come on man! be trasnsparent. should we be goading u for each and everything?

Guest_9566 : hello central team. why did we vote for u? it was only because u would suppor t the trexs cause. but what is happening now? pat s are being included in the trexs list. have u also gone the earlier team's way? please provide a decent explanation for this. afterall the website is yours. can u not spare some time to put the official version of what is happening at delhi on this issue? Is there any action plan at all at ur end?

Guest_9566 : hello sanjay? why is that u are the only one who is putting up some messages in this site. why dont u allow the other office bearers to do the same thing. is it a fact that u are dominating them or are they are too busy for all these petty things?

Guest_6533 : ENOUGH IS ENOUGH TREX'S NEED A SEPRATE UNION THATS ALL! D.R.T.A OF AIR

Guest_6533 : D.R.T.A OF AIR

Guest_6533 : DRTA OF AIR AND DDn

Guest_6533 : DIRECTLY RECRUITED TREX's ASSOCIATION

Guest_1181 : Sanjay u r apologising to dogs? who side r u ? better quit ! what is GS and other office bearers doing ? we are burning here and no response from u or other office bearers as guest 9566 says!

Guest_7561 : Tha day is not far when the BECIL recruited Marketing Executives are also going to come into the TREXes Seniority/Eligibility list. Why is this list being treated like a garbage bin???????????????? This is a deliberate game plan but this should not be allowed to succeed . Better still make one seniority list for all employees of Prasar Bharati , when the Directorate has become so ignorant and oblivious of the different cadres in the Corporation.

Guest_5165 : Guest 6533 what do you mean by Direct Recruit TREXs. Are you side lining us the promottee TREXs. we had been with you in all fights together. now we see your colors. Without our strength you people will miserably fail. UNITY is our strength. dont try to divide and make politics in this. this is a warning.

Guest_7477 : hi 5165 i think 6533 wanted to stress only trexs and no pa ts. trexs are trexs whethere direct or promoted.

Guest_4841 : The following is found in airnet- "In view of the interim orders of Hon?ble CAT Ernakulam Bench dated 16.06.08 in MA No. 415/2008 filed in OA No.108/2008 by Shri C. Sreekumar and orders of Hon?ble CAT, PB, New Delhi dated 17.06.2008 in OA No.1273/2000 filed by PSA of AIR and DDn, the order no.33/2008-SI(B) issued vide letter no.6/8/2006-SI(B)/735 dated 13.06.08 is kept in abeyance till July 21, 2008." About this also the central psa didnt give any hint. it was only vijaya bhaskara reddy who mentioned this in guest book and forum.

Guest_9108 : Dear 5633 i just advocated free and fair platform for trex's whether promoted,and allied not for pat's, sorry!

pokeman : thanku guest 4841. And thanku vijayabhaskar. Wake up Central Unit. The site is urs. Give all the details for our own benefit. God bless us in our united fight against the pats. Let us chuck them out of our promotional opportunities and also from our own psa. Stand up to ur responsibilities central unit. It is time we act


Guest_1064 First time I have visited the site. but very disappointed. The draft seniority lists of trexes is available on AIRNET but not on this site. Is it good? The prior site of thepsa.com was victimised of not updating regularly. is this new site is also same. The PSA office-bearers are not taking interest in updating the site. Though there is shout box, but who will listen shouts of PSA members. The orders issued by directorate concern with prog.staff should be displayed on this site. On AIRNET some order in connection with the CAT judgement is displayed but it is not mentioned in this new PSA site. Is it worth of having such site? In such situation the documents relevant with the case should be made available on this site.
Ganesh Thank you 1064 for the suggestions. the documents available on airnet were not put on this site just because they are available on airnet:-) and also to reduce the space. Otherwise most of the latest documents can be seen in Hotspot/General page and Activities/Central Unit page. Please visit again and also register yourself.
Guest_1156 when locally recruited PA Ts are put under 1:1 ratio at par with SSC recruited TREXs then there need not be 3 DR TREXs and 1 Promottee promotional avenue among TREXs.
Guest_5425 Thank U Guest 4841, it was because of U , I have come to know about the stay order to the reversion of Pex(i/c), in concordance with the CAT direction, issued by the Directorate. it is to be found in the GENERAL CIRCULARS sub menu , item no. 4 at present. I agree with U that PSA HQ should have informed us about it .
Guest_9743 The general opinion is that the PA-Ts should not be admitted in the main process of promotion and it wil affect the rightfull cadre TREXs.Knowing all this just, why the central unit is not taking firm step against PA-Ts?
Guest_3448 What about the UNDERTAKING to be given so as not to take up any outside assignment....only by some cadres???
Ashok Panigrahi Friends, Please donot drag any issues beyond limit. The Office Beareres of our association at Delhi are wiser and better informed about all the issues. Let us give them the helping hand to settle the issues for the betterment of the programme cadres. Personal attack should be avoided as this is detrimental to our unity and strength. We should prove that we are professionals in the field of communication. Say some new and nice things to enlighten all. Have a nice day.
Guest_2904 Dear Pani ji Thanks for appearing on shout box it gives immense satisfaction to commrades who are already frusturated beyond limits as 1451 talking of agitatatio which is not going to successful in Today's scenario only pressure tacticts some kind of fixing by gresing the palms of BABUS can win the game?
Guest_2904 FIXING IS REQUIRED EVEN IN THE ACP CASE NO BODY IS LISTENING AT DELHI
Guest_3530 Guest 1064 Please donot criticise the site or site administrator its one of the greatest site available to any association in INDIA totally DEMOCRATIC JAB TAK CHALEGI?
Guest_6743 Thanks Pani for your advice. But how come BECIL stole the show right under the nose of wise people?
Guest_4031 Everything is possible with money everybody knows but we programme people are very-2 KANJOOS thats Why no body is responding to ACP FIXING?
pokeman good question guest 6743. can u answer this question mr.panigrahi? and more so, mr.panigrahi, do not advise us, because, u are the one who spoilt the future of all trexs. if u want to do something nice, do not come to this forum. take care of ur health and leave delhi immediately.
Guest_8736 i fully agre with pokeman. panigrahi should be thown out of the association for his selfish actions and inaction for welfare of the staff. ITS TIME FOR ACTION. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE AGITATION PLAN THAT WAS TO BE ANNOUNCED AFTER THE NATIONAL EXECUTIVE. THE CENTRAL TEAM DOESNT HAVE THE GUTS TO GO AHEAD WITH IT. THEY ARE ONLY PUPPETS AND COWARDS.
Guest_6099 AN a CTIVE ASSOCIATION
Guest_9873 ALL ALERT MEMBERS ARE REQUETED TO VISIT THE FORUM PAGE DISCUSSION ON SENIORITY LASTLY VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS POSTED GO THROUGH AND EXPRESS YOUR VIEWS!
Guest_2179 How come the chatter and waste box A.K.Danraj is keeping mum for the past two days.Its world wonder.
Guest_4465 KIND ATTENTION TO ALL PSA FRIENDS,This is a Resolution passed by the General Body Meeting of Programme Staff Association of All India and Doordarshan at the National Convention held on 17th and 18th October, 2003 ate New Delhi.?IT IS RESOLVED THAT SINCE THE STATUS OF PRODUCTION ASSISTANTS RECRUITED AFTER 1984 IS NOT CLEAR, THEREFORE, HENCEFORTH NO PRODUCTION ASSISTANT WILL BE MADE MEMBER OF THE ASSOCIATION. IF IN FUTURE THERE IS A MOVE TO MERGE THESE PRODUCTION ASSISTANTS IN THE PRESENT SENIORITY LIST WHICH WILL HAMPER THE CAREER PROGRESSION OF PRESENT TRANSMISSION EXECUTIVES, THEN THE ASSOCIATION WILL SUPPORT THE CASE OF TREXs?1.IS THIS RESOLUTION PASSED IN 2003 CLEAR ENOUGH?2.THEN HOW COME POST84 PRODUCTION ASSISTANTS WERE MADE PSA MEMBERS AGAINSTTHIS GENERAL BODY RESOLUTION?3.WHAT IS THE SANCTITY OF GENERAL BODY MEETING RESOLUTION?4.WHETHER THOSE INCLUDED THESE PRODUCTION ASSISTANTS INTO PSA FOLD KNEW THAT THIS WILL DEFINITELY STALL TREX PROMOTIONS? 5.HOW MANY MEMBERS WERE MADE FROM POST 84 PRODUCTION ASSISTANTS?
Guest_5321 Don't wory Guest 2179. He is taking time to prepare the list of foreign tours he undertook during the last 10 years , that he is going to put up in the shout box for all to see. Remeber ,he promised to give in writing that he is willing to sacrifice his sports tours in foreign countries henceforth for his blood brothers and blood sisters.
Ganesh Hi friends it was noticed that the shout box archives in the forum overshadows all other topics. So a new subtopic under Archives in the main page itself is created just for our Shout Box! Hooray!!
akdanraj I was told by some of my air wellwishers that again some quotes have appeared in the thepsa site about me and i had opened it only now. My beloved friends for justice, shri. M G Mohanakrishnan wanted me not to communicate in this shout box through proper replies for queries. Mr MGM what is your answer to guests 5321 and 2179? Persons who have not revealed their identity are abusing. Let them kindly write to my personal email id and identify themselves. I shall reply them promptly. What is the advice of the PSA President?
Guest_2016 What happened to the July broadvision. we are depreived of information, what central unit has taken inthe prevailing burning situation
Guest_9351 it seems no body has cared to read what guest 4465 has revealed.
Guest_9351 now let us try and fight it out. i don't know what is wrong about this trexs seniority list but definitely our juniors should get their due and justice.
Guest_6859 why there is no answer from the psa office bearers for guest 4465's opinion. is the president, Vice President and the General Secretary all sleeping sound ? only we have to keep shouting at this box thats why this shout box is there
Guest_3245 Are u sleeping Mr president?
Guest_3245 Why r u hiding the info reg merger of pats?dont u have guts to fight?how long will u drag on with prayers/petitions?come on wake up!gulp some viagra.dump that currupt fox panigrahi .
Guest_3245 we know u cant do anything on prmotions front.atleast get acp .
Guest_3245 come yaar give a call for agitation.we r with u.pl dont succumb to any pressures and dont tie a price tag around your neck like panigrahi!
Guest_4589 You r speaking like a saint!what a great actor are u mr panigrahi?
Guest_3999 None of the Office Bearers open their mouth. shame on them. Then why they contested inthe elections for the post. To favour the PATs ? as guest 3245 said if you dont have the guts quit your posts.
Guest_6153 Jab psa ne itni ?chhi site di hai to pats ke bare mein kutch karenge nahin hum sab karen trex's ki alag association banaye aur laren?
Guest_8119 having trexs to ddgs as members is our strength. but it is our weakness also because of clash of interest due to the hierarchy and responsibilities involved. results in infighting rather than a cadre fighting for their rights. if a station head at some station is an engineer it is easy for us to fight than if it is a programme person. maybe we should agitate to have only engineers as station heads so that psa can fight better!
Guest_2637 hi 8119 You are suggesting cutting the nose to spite the face. But what about this 'I am UPSC you are only a promotee' attitude. Will it change with the change in station head? At many places it is the promotee pexs who man/woman the sections involving production work than just managing as was the case before they merged producers with pexs(unwise move, IMHO)
Guest_2637 what I meant was the pexs through UPSC seem to think production work below their dignity or they are charmed only be paper work.
munnabai arre bhai it is simple. upsc ppl come directly promotees have work exprince of 15, 16 yrs
Guest_8665 they why recruitment thru upsc. why not only promotees?!
Guest_5771 will u pl stop fighting amongst each other. remember that if the organisation lives then only you will survive. think how to save these sinking ships of AIR
Guest_7034 Slowly things are being deviated. our TREXs grievances are sidelined by inclusion of this upsc PEX matter. we are not concerned about this. first lets sort out our matter. friends please donot try to deviate our burning issues. this site is meant for us.
Guest_1708 yes. The need of the hour is promotion
Guest_8482 Why there is no information from President and Gen. Secretary ? Only we have elected them isnt it ?
Guest_1969 sorry friend 8482 they are sleeping ! dont disturb them !
Guest_6322 hey 7034 this site is meant for prog staff. but for the upsc recruitmet this recruitment holiday will not b there. possibly one hurdle less for trexs promotion. is promotion not a burning issue?
Guest_5637 i agree with guest 6322 tuest 7034 should not try to project only trexs without the post of pex what the trexs are going to do and as 6322 says if recruitment holiday is not solicited then the trexs will be eligible only for 15 % promotion and rest 85 % by direct pex recruitment as it was in earlier days. so lets go together promotion is a promotion whether it is for pex or a trex.
Guest_2273 Pexs thru upsc donot have experience as trexs and further these direct recruits thinks production work is below their diginity and like ias officers they like to execute things sticking to their chairs. running around with creativeness is more counted than working in papers
Munnabai arre bhai there is going to be a war of words between upsc pexs and trexs like it was btwn PA Ts and trexs some days bfore.
Guest_8087 see this is the problem with PSA. we have no time to fight others who are getting better shares as we excel in fighting among ourselves.
Ganesh But do other cadres have this kind of hierarchy confusion and outside recruitment to contend with?
Guest_1714 Commrades Promotion is burning issue only for TREXS who can be assigned any duty any time its not badly required by Gazzeted officers who already granted stepping up and enjoying themselves?
Guest_1714 Thats why TREXS need a seprate front for fighting for their rights?
Guest_1714 A SEPRATE UNION WHICH INCLUDES THE PROMOTEE AS WELL AUR GHABRANE KI BAAT NAHIN HAI OUR NUBER WILL CROSS 2500 ;;;;;;;;;;;
munnabai sahi baath bhaiya
Ganesh Hi it is a nice discussion going on. Why not we have a chat session using our own shout box at a fixed time so that we can interact, shout, curse, agree and share our views without waiting for a response. Post your views and a time and date. But it will be useful if those interested can send their willingness through the Contact link to our mail id. 50 registrations from all over India is a minimum number to make the chat lively. What do you say?!
Guest_7206 Ganesh ji THATS GREAT IDEA,U ARE GR8 YAAR
Ganesh Thank you 7206 I had to wait for more than 1 hour for that response if it is a chat session the response will be immediate no hit and run let us see how many positives!
Guest_4182 Yes Ganesh work out a fixed point chart so that we can know which topic figures at what time and members from all over the country can express their views on it and at the end of the day we will definitely have some good suggestions and conclusions.
Ganesh Thanks 4182 for that suggestion. You are more ambitious than me. Working out a fixed point chart means many topics many members many hours online. WOW! Why not we have a discussion on fpc? After all this is the most democratic site in India, as some one mentioned: -)
Guest_3449 what a stupid idea. people want more quarrel. lets stop all this whether it is UPSC Pex or Trex all need promotion. Pexs after 19 years of service and more are still slogging. trexs should understand one fact. only if pexs are promoted the feeder cadre get more share to be promoted. fighting for pexs promotion actually will pave way for ur promotion. rather keeping fpc for waste discussion will create more confusions and unwanted arguments. lets stop all this. concentrate on pexs promotion first and will follow the subordinates.
Guest_8552 Guest 3449, try to understand one thing. After so long have we the members of PSA , got one mind space to give vent to our feelings. So what's the harm in letting every member speak his/her mind out. As such in the National Conventions , the general member hardly gets a scope to let out their feelings. Remember Nek Chand made the beautiful Rock Garden out of wastes from people's houses. So why can't we expect a lotus to grow out of what you call waste discussion?
Guest_8719 As guest 1714 rightly said the pexs have already got their stepping up and have carried a lumpsum amount to their bank accounts. only we trexs are left out neither with a promotion nor with a acp. but pexs are on their way not only stepping up but also with an additional acp. officers should consider the true working class without any benefits, the horses with mules burdens.
Guest_7902 guest 3449 a person who doesn't like the word colleague but uses subordinate instead will find this a stupid idea. But remember promotion of trex and pex is a continuous and simultaneous process. Nothing wrong in talking about trexs promotion now and who said the fpc should be only about trexs? As ganeshji remarked we can have a discussion about fpc also as the first topic.
Ganesh Hi friends background and facts about PATs uploaded and can be seen in Hotspot/General page.
Ganesh The same can be seen through the link on the right side of the registration page also.
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